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Why are your 10 Year growth rates only calculated for 8 years in the DCFDAta Sheet. Plus when should I Not use the OSV Spreadsheet

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1:32 pm
January 5, 2011


Jae Jun

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I see what you mean, but the original reason was to take a rolling timeframe. Rather than just look at one 10 year period, it was more important to view different timeframes across 10 years and then to take the median.

This provides a better view of how realistic the company will be able to grow.

But you make a good point which is why I included a 10year timeframe in the latest update I made.

11:27 pm
January 3, 2011


robvalue

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Jae,

 

Firstly great tool, I love it. Now I need to be able to know when to trust it.

Two questions.

In checking your derivation of the 10 years growth rates I notices that you use a set of 8 year growth periods

e.g From 2000-2007, 2001-2008 etc. The formulae you e.g cell  B77 of the DCFData sheet have is consistent with this being an 8 year period

 

i.e =IF(AND(B$30>0,I$30>0),(I$30/B$30)^(1/7)-1,0)

 

You then calculate the median of these "10 years data averages and use this in the DCF calculations, all fine and good If you meant it to be an 8 year period.

 

Your 5 year  growth formulas all looks correct, just this "10 year". I downloaded the spreadsheet about 2 weeks ago, its v2010821.xlm

 

Is this purely a mistake or am I missing something.

 

Question 2.

 

For some companies your values are inline wth say Mstar, e.g JNJ  however for some of the  capital inensive oil stocks teh values seem way out of wack  e.g XOM in the OSV gives $29.82 as the DCF intrinsic value vs say Mstar FV of $86

 

Any suggestions on when to doubt the values given or if a businesses capitalization is such that DCF will not give  a "true " value I'd be grateful for.  I wonder in these cases what Mstar are using since I thought they used DCF too!

I do note you have mentioned do not use the OSV for financial stocks, however it would be nice to know what specific financial metrics cause the DCF to be wildly inaccurate

Thanks

 

Rob

 

 



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