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		<title>By: Carl</title>
		<link>http://www.oldschoolvalue.com/blog/book-reviews/investing-book-quality-earnings/comment-page-1/#comment-3875</link>
		<dc:creator>Carl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Dec 2009 08:35:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you have read Quality of Earnings, you might want to check out Creative Cash Flow Reporting.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you have read Quality of Earnings, you might want to check out Creative Cash Flow Reporting.</p>
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		<title>By: Jae Jun</title>
		<link>http://www.oldschoolvalue.com/blog/book-reviews/investing-book-quality-earnings/comment-page-1/#comment-3592</link>
		<dc:creator>Jae Jun</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Nov 2009 19:44:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tyler,

Good list of books.
Personally, I would read the intelligent investor last. Security analysis is more like a textbook than a book so I don&#039;t think you will have to read every single page.

Reading financial statements should always be at the top of the list.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tyler,</p>
<p>Good list of books.<br />
Personally, I would read the intelligent investor last. Security analysis is more like a textbook than a book so I don&#8217;t think you will have to read every single page.</p>
<p>Reading financial statements should always be at the top of the list.</p>
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		<title>By: Tylergold</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tylergold</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Oct 2009 12:51:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Jae, Tyler Here,

i got lucky my parents bought me 4 books
- the intelligent investor
- security analysis 6th edition
- Valuation Techniques
- Reading Financial statements

im reading the intelligent investor 1st what should i read next thanks.

what valuation techniques do u use?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Jae, Tyler Here,</p>
<p>i got lucky my parents bought me 4 books<br />
- the intelligent investor<br />
- security analysis 6th edition<br />
- Valuation Techniques<br />
- Reading Financial statements</p>
<p>im reading the intelligent investor 1st what should i read next thanks.</p>
<p>what valuation techniques do u use?</p>
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		<title>By: Jim</title>
		<link>http://www.oldschoolvalue.com/blog/book-reviews/investing-book-quality-earnings/comment-page-1/#comment-3578</link>
		<dc:creator>Jim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Oct 2009 17:31:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jae,

Robert Sobel helped Thornton O&#039;Glove write the book &#039;Quality of Earnings&#039;.
.-= Jim&#180;s last blog ..&lt;a href=&quot;http://valueinvestortoday.com/2009/10/28/did-value-investor-mark-sellers-over-value-prxi/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Did Value Investor Mark Sellers Over-Value PRXI?&lt;/a&gt; =-.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jae,</p>
<p>Robert Sobel helped Thornton O&#8217;Glove write the book &#8216;Quality of Earnings&#8217;.<br />
.-= Jim&#180;s last blog ..<a href="http://valueinvestortoday.com/2009/10/28/did-value-investor-mark-sellers-over-value-prxi/" rel="nofollow" onclick="pageTracker._trackPageview('/outgoing/valueinvestortoday.com/2009/10/28/did-value-investor-mark-sellers-over-value-prxi/?referer=');">Did Value Investor Mark Sellers Over-Value PRXI?</a> =-.</p>
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		<title>By: Jae Jun</title>
		<link>http://www.oldschoolvalue.com/blog/book-reviews/investing-book-quality-earnings/comment-page-1/#comment-3557</link>
		<dc:creator>Jae Jun</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Oct 2009 17:15:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry but who is Robert Sobel? Not sure which book you are referring to.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry but who is Robert Sobel? Not sure which book you are referring to.</p>
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		<title>By: Jim</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Oct 2009 01:19:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jae, according to wiki, Robert Sobel has some interesting facts which include being a chess master and beating Bobby Fischer in a chess game once. He apparently died in 1999. I&#039;ve nearly completed my first read of his book and I must say it is one of the best I&#039;ve read.
.-= Jim&#180;s last blog ..&lt;a href=&quot;http://valueinvestortoday.com/2009/10/23/equity-risk/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Equity Risk&lt;/a&gt; =-.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jae, according to wiki, Robert Sobel has some interesting facts which include being a chess master and beating Bobby Fischer in a chess game once. He apparently died in 1999. I&#8217;ve nearly completed my first read of his book and I must say it is one of the best I&#8217;ve read.<br />
.-= Jim&#180;s last blog ..<a href="http://valueinvestortoday.com/2009/10/23/equity-risk/" rel="nofollow" onclick="pageTracker._trackPageview('/outgoing/valueinvestortoday.com/2009/10/23/equity-risk/?referer=');">Equity Risk</a> =-.</p>
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		<title>By: Jae Jun</title>
		<link>http://www.oldschoolvalue.com/blog/book-reviews/investing-book-quality-earnings/comment-page-1/#comment-3501</link>
		<dc:creator>Jae Jun</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Oct 2009 04:57:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No worries Jim. Always willing to share the good stuff. Also heard from people that actually know the author what a fine and generous person he is. Makes it more enjoyable to read.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No worries Jim. Always willing to share the good stuff. Also heard from people that actually know the author what a fine and generous person he is. Makes it more enjoyable to read.</p>
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		<title>By: Jim</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Oct 2009 22:07:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just ordered the book and look forward to the read. Thanks for the recommendation Jae.
.-= Jim&#180;s last blog ..&lt;a href=&quot;http://valueinvestortoday.com/2009/10/16/the-wall-of-shame/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;The Wall Of Shame&lt;/a&gt; =-.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just ordered the book and look forward to the read. Thanks for the recommendation Jae.<br />
.-= Jim&#180;s last blog ..<a href="http://valueinvestortoday.com/2009/10/16/the-wall-of-shame/" rel="nofollow" onclick="pageTracker._trackPageview('/outgoing/valueinvestortoday.com/2009/10/16/the-wall-of-shame/?referer=');">The Wall Of Shame</a> =-.</p>
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		<title>By: Jae Jun</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jae Jun</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Oct 2009 21:53:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I haven&#039;t read the Shenanigans but it&#039;s probably similar.

The author doesn&#039;t like dividends. He says that companies that pay dividends are too set on either increasing or maintaining even when the company is clearly in trouble.

Rather than admit that they are in trouble and need to use the excess cash back in its operations they raise it or still try to pay it. BAC last year is a prime example.

Another way management use dividends it to maintain their stock price so that when it comes time for them to require financing, they can get a better deal.

I personally have never really focused on dividends. If a company pays it, that&#039;s ok, but whether they do or don&#039;t, it doesn&#039;t affect my decision.

I&#039;m thinking of adding a DDM to the spreadsheet. Never used it before as it doesn&#039;t apply to what I look for but many other users may like it.

What&#039;s your experience with the DDM?
Any advantages, disadvantages?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I haven&#8217;t read the Shenanigans but it&#8217;s probably similar.</p>
<p>The author doesn&#8217;t like dividends. He says that companies that pay dividends are too set on either increasing or maintaining even when the company is clearly in trouble.</p>
<p>Rather than admit that they are in trouble and need to use the excess cash back in its operations they raise it or still try to pay it. BAC last year is a prime example.</p>
<p>Another way management use dividends it to maintain their stock price so that when it comes time for them to require financing, they can get a better deal.</p>
<p>I personally have never really focused on dividends. If a company pays it, that&#8217;s ok, but whether they do or don&#8217;t, it doesn&#8217;t affect my decision.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m thinking of adding a DDM to the spreadsheet. Never used it before as it doesn&#8217;t apply to what I look for but many other users may like it.</p>
<p>What&#8217;s your experience with the DDM?<br />
Any advantages, disadvantages?</p>
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		<title>By: X</title>
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		<dc:creator>X</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Oct 2009 15:14:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jae,

I wonder if this book is similar to &quot;Financial Shenangians&quot;? ... which focuses on how companies try to inflate their earnings and utilize accounting metrics to distort their net income and cash flow statement. 

It includes a list of things to look for that may cause for red flags. 

Also, what did this author say about dividends matter? And, on a tangent, how have you accounted for dividends in your models? Do you use the DDM approach from time to time?


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X</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jae,</p>
<p>I wonder if this book is similar to &#8220;Financial Shenangians&#8221;? &#8230; which focuses on how companies try to inflate their earnings and utilize accounting metrics to distort their net income and cash flow statement. </p>
<p>It includes a list of things to look for that may cause for red flags. </p>
<p>Also, what did this author say about dividends matter? And, on a tangent, how have you accounted for dividends in your models? Do you use the DDM approach from time to time?</p>
<p>&#8211;<br />
X</p>
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		<title>By: Floris</title>
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		<dc:creator>Floris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Oct 2009 17:40:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I ordered it 2 weeks ago from amazon.com. Here hoping the boat will hurry up and deliver my books to the other side of the pond.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I ordered it 2 weeks ago from amazon.com. Here hoping the boat will hurry up and deliver my books to the other side of the pond.</p>
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