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		<title>By: Jim</title>
		<link>http://www.oldschoolvalue.com/blog/featured/cheap-graham-stocks/comment-page-1/#comment-2185</link>
		<dc:creator>Jim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Apr 2009 15:41:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>piyfulfo,

Citigroup&#039;s ASTA fund has nothing to do with Asta Funding, Inc. (ASFI). Two entirely separate things.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>piyfulfo,</p>
<p>Citigroup&#8217;s ASTA fund has nothing to do with Asta Funding, Inc. (ASFI). Two entirely separate things.</p>
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		<title>By: Jim</title>
		<link>http://www.oldschoolvalue.com/blog/featured/cheap-graham-stocks/comment-page-1/#comment-2183</link>
		<dc:creator>Jim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Apr 2009 04:34:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ piyfulfo,

Agree with Jae. You&#039;re posting was much too long and a link to reference what you are talking about would be appreciated. I&#039;ve been reading their latest 10K and don&#039;t see any reference in regards to what you are talking about.

@Jae

All I can say thus far is that the more I read their 10K, the more I like the company and how they are doing things. They are very open in their 10K which makes it really easy to place a value on the business. I&#039;m just concerned why they don&#039;t have a cash balance on the books. I did find out allot about their unusual expenses and I&#039;ll share some of that info with you via email. I don&#039;t want to disclose too much of my findings until I decide if I want to take up a position or not.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ piyfulfo,</p>
<p>Agree with Jae. You&#8217;re posting was much too long and a link to reference what you are talking about would be appreciated. I&#8217;ve been reading their latest 10K and don&#8217;t see any reference in regards to what you are talking about.</p>
<p>@Jae</p>
<p>All I can say thus far is that the more I read their 10K, the more I like the company and how they are doing things. They are very open in their 10K which makes it really easy to place a value on the business. I&#8217;m just concerned why they don&#8217;t have a cash balance on the books. I did find out allot about their unusual expenses and I&#8217;ll share some of that info with you via email. I don&#8217;t want to disclose too much of my findings until I decide if I want to take up a position or not.</p>
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		<title>By: Jae Jun</title>
		<link>http://www.oldschoolvalue.com/blog/featured/cheap-graham-stocks/comment-page-1/#comment-2182</link>
		<dc:creator>Jae Jun</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Apr 2009 04:10:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ piyfulfo,

Do you have a link to the article? It is rather long....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ piyfulfo,</p>
<p>Do you have a link to the article? It is rather long&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Jae Jun</title>
		<link>http://www.oldschoolvalue.com/blog/featured/cheap-graham-stocks/comment-page-1/#comment-2181</link>
		<dc:creator>Jae Jun</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Apr 2009 04:01:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jim,

I haven&#039;t done any further deep analysis on ASFI yet. It&#039;s harder for me since it is a &quot;financial&quot; business but I do like their business model. However the risk I see is they are trying to collect payments in a recession.

Have you gone through the reports? Any thoughts?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jim,</p>
<p>I haven&#8217;t done any further deep analysis on ASFI yet. It&#8217;s harder for me since it is a &#8220;financial&#8221; business but I do like their business model. However the risk I see is they are trying to collect payments in a recession.</p>
<p>Have you gone through the reports? Any thoughts?</p>
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		<title>By: piyfulfo</title>
		<link>http://www.oldschoolvalue.com/blog/featured/cheap-graham-stocks/comment-page-1/#comment-2180</link>
		<dc:creator>piyfulfo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Apr 2009 03:59:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Law Firm of Klayman &amp; Toskes is also investigating Citigroup&#039;s management of its ASTA Fund (Palisades Collections). The ASTA Fund was managed in similar fashion to that of MAT Five.  Many retirees have also been burned by the ASTA Fund, as it too is down about 90%.
    If you are an investor of Citigroup&#039;s MAT or ASTA Funds and wish to explore your legal options, please contact Steven D. Toskes, Esquire or Jahan K. Manasseh, Esquire of Klayman &amp; Toskes, P.A., at 888-997-9956.  You may also visit us on the web at http://www.nasd-law.com .

  (deleted the text as it looked like spam)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Law Firm of Klayman &amp; Toskes is also investigating Citigroup&#8217;s management of its ASTA Fund (Palisades Collections). The ASTA Fund was managed in similar fashion to that of MAT Five.  Many retirees have also been burned by the ASTA Fund, as it too is down about 90%.<br />
    If you are an investor of Citigroup&#8217;s MAT or ASTA Funds and wish to explore your legal options, please contact Steven D. Toskes, Esquire or Jahan K. Manasseh, Esquire of Klayman &amp; Toskes, P.A., at 888-997-9956.  You may also visit us on the web at <a href="http://www.nasd-law.com" rel="nofollow" onclick="pageTracker._trackPageview('/outgoing/www.nasd-law.com?referer=');">http://www.nasd-law.com</a> .</p>
<p>  (deleted the text as it looked like spam)</p>
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		<title>By: Jim</title>
		<link>http://www.oldschoolvalue.com/blog/featured/cheap-graham-stocks/comment-page-1/#comment-2178</link>
		<dc:creator>Jim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Apr 2009 02:46:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jae, have you researched any more on Asta Funding. I find it an very simple business to understand and the type of business I would like to be involved in. My main concern is, they&#039;ve never had a history of keeping larges amounts of cash on the balance sheet and they have high unusual expenses. My question is, if they are showing any success ratio of closing these transactions, where is the money going? I don&#039;t see it on the balance sheet and that concerns me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jae, have you researched any more on Asta Funding. I find it an very simple business to understand and the type of business I would like to be involved in. My main concern is, they&#8217;ve never had a history of keeping larges amounts of cash on the balance sheet and they have high unusual expenses. My question is, if they are showing any success ratio of closing these transactions, where is the money going? I don&#8217;t see it on the balance sheet and that concerns me.</p>
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		<title>By: MKL</title>
		<link>http://www.oldschoolvalue.com/blog/featured/cheap-graham-stocks/comment-page-1/#comment-1970</link>
		<dc:creator>MKL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Apr 2009 20:29:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>http://www.marketfolly.com/2009/03/recent-thoughts-from-baupost-groups.html</description>
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		<title>By: Mark</title>
		<link>http://www.oldschoolvalue.com/blog/featured/cheap-graham-stocks/comment-page-1/#comment-1949</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Apr 2009 03:55:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>that was me

&lt;abbr&gt;&lt;em&gt;Mark’s last blog post..&lt;a href=&quot;http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/stockpursuit/VhAe/~3/1W6psM707y0/some-really-cool-momentum-charts.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Some Really Cool Momentum Charts&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/abbr&gt;&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>that was me</p>
<p><abbr><em>Mark’s last blog post..<a href="http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/stockpursuit/VhAe/~3/1W6psM707y0/some-really-cool-momentum-charts.html" rel="nofollow" onclick="pageTracker._trackPageview('/outgoing/feedproxy.google.com/_r/stockpursuit/VhAe/_3/1W6psM707y0/some-really-cool-momentum-charts.html?referer=');">Some Really Cool Momentum Charts</a></em></abbr></p>
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		<title>By: Mark</title>
		<link>http://www.oldschoolvalue.com/blog/featured/cheap-graham-stocks/comment-page-1/#comment-1948</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Apr 2009 03:54:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i looked at IGOI it had an amazing year I&#039;m guessing operations wise in 2003 bc is went from like $.70 to $9 . every other year since 2000 hasn&#039;t been good for the stock at least. It might be worth it to see what the heck happened in late 2002 that rocketed the stock.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i looked at IGOI it had an amazing year I&#8217;m guessing operations wise in 2003 bc is went from like $.70 to $9 . every other year since 2000 hasn&#8217;t been good for the stock at least. It might be worth it to see what the heck happened in late 2002 that rocketed the stock.</p>
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		<title>By: Jae Jun</title>
		<link>http://www.oldschoolvalue.com/blog/featured/cheap-graham-stocks/comment-page-1/#comment-1946</link>
		<dc:creator>Jae Jun</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Apr 2009 00:24:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mark,

I&#039;m holding KSWS, AEO, KTII, ATW, CRDN, VVTV as long holds.
GGP, IGOI as net net plays and not much else.

Looking for more good net nets.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mark,</p>
<p>I&#8217;m holding KSWS, AEO, KTII, ATW, CRDN, VVTV as long holds.<br />
GGP, IGOI as net net plays and not much else.</p>
<p>Looking for more good net nets.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark</title>
		<link>http://www.oldschoolvalue.com/blog/featured/cheap-graham-stocks/comment-page-1/#comment-1942</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Apr 2009 05:50:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hey Jae, are you holding any other interesting small caps or net&#039;s right now?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hey Jae, are you holding any other interesting small caps or net&#8217;s right now?</p>
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		<title>By: Jim</title>
		<link>http://www.oldschoolvalue.com/blog/featured/cheap-graham-stocks/comment-page-1/#comment-1934</link>
		<dc:creator>Jim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Apr 2009 22:27:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>VVTV is a bargain, but not because its a net-net (which it isn&#039;t). Like Jae said, value investing is an art and can&#039;t be determined by a simple mathematical equation. If you could figure it out that way, then the markets would truly be efficient which they are far from being. I hold VVTV.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>VVTV is a bargain, but not because its a net-net (which it isn&#8217;t). Like Jae said, value investing is an art and can&#8217;t be determined by a simple mathematical equation. If you could figure it out that way, then the markets would truly be efficient which they are far from being. I hold VVTV.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark</title>
		<link>http://www.oldschoolvalue.com/blog/featured/cheap-graham-stocks/comment-page-1/#comment-1933</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Apr 2009 22:10:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;It’s struggling to break 70c but it’s become a long term hold for me.&quot;

good idea. I think you&#039;ll bank surely if the market keeps this up. I&#039;ve been incredibly bearish but maybe I&#039;m wrong and the market is actually discounting the turn of the economy. Housing has been in recession so may years


&lt;abbr&gt;&lt;em&gt;Mark’s last blog post..&lt;a href=&quot;http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/stockpursuit/VhAe/~3/evTH1mWaYUk/net-nets-sector-rotation-net-net-pier_02.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Net-Nets Sector Rotation, Pier One ImportsPIR , PXG, &amp; Technical Analysis&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/abbr&gt;&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;It’s struggling to break 70c but it’s become a long term hold for me.&#8221;</p>
<p>good idea. I think you&#8217;ll bank surely if the market keeps this up. I&#8217;ve been incredibly bearish but maybe I&#8217;m wrong and the market is actually discounting the turn of the economy. Housing has been in recession so may years</p>
<p><abbr><em>Mark’s last blog post..<a href="http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/stockpursuit/VhAe/~3/evTH1mWaYUk/net-nets-sector-rotation-net-net-pier_02.html" rel="nofollow" onclick="pageTracker._trackPageview('/outgoing/feedproxy.google.com/_r/stockpursuit/VhAe/_3/evTH1mWaYUk/net-nets-sector-rotation-net-net-pier_02.html?referer=');">Net-Nets Sector Rotation, Pier One ImportsPIR , PXG, &amp; Technical Analysis</a></em></abbr></p>
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		<title>By: Jae Jun</title>
		<link>http://www.oldschoolvalue.com/blog/featured/cheap-graham-stocks/comment-page-1/#comment-1932</link>
		<dc:creator>Jae Jun</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Apr 2009 21:31:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;b&gt;@ Byron&lt;/b&gt;

I did notice Klarman building up his stake in RHIE as I try to follow his moves but I&#039;m sure you know that Klarman is one hard nut to figure out.

I look at his portfolio and don&#039;t understand more than half the things he buys. Just shows how much I&#039;ve got to learn.

I would also prefer RHIE to have a longer history so I&#039;ll be passing this. It&#039;s actually very similar to what I read a while back with Lions Gate Entertainment (LGF). Ichan is also a big holder trying to exert his influence.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>@ Byron</b></p>
<p>I did notice Klarman building up his stake in RHIE as I try to follow his moves but I&#8217;m sure you know that Klarman is one hard nut to figure out.</p>
<p>I look at his portfolio and don&#8217;t understand more than half the things he buys. Just shows how much I&#8217;ve got to learn.</p>
<p>I would also prefer RHIE to have a longer history so I&#8217;ll be passing this. It&#8217;s actually very similar to what I read a while back with Lions Gate Entertainment (LGF). Ichan is also a big holder trying to exert his influence.</p>
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		<title>By: Jae Jun</title>
		<link>http://www.oldschoolvalue.com/blog/featured/cheap-graham-stocks/comment-page-1/#comment-1931</link>
		<dc:creator>Jae Jun</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Apr 2009 21:23:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As always, valuation of a business is more of an art. The science is in how we do it but the art is how we interpret it.

I&#039;m on the very conservative side which causes me to miss out on many good opportunities. The problem is while I miss so many good things, I also miss out on my targets because I&#039;m not always in tune with the market and miss out.

VVTV has some off balance sheet obligations so its no good being liquidated but when I think about it&#039;s worth as a business, I still think its cheap. I&#039;ve mentioned before that a price below 50c was pricing in bankruptcy which I never believed after looking at the numbers from operations.

It&#039;s struggling to break 70c but it&#039;s become a long term hold for me. I don&#039;t like the home shopping business at all but if they improve margins to where their competitors are, they surely can&#039;t stay where they are.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As always, valuation of a business is more of an art. The science is in how we do it but the art is how we interpret it.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m on the very conservative side which causes me to miss out on many good opportunities. The problem is while I miss so many good things, I also miss out on my targets because I&#8217;m not always in tune with the market and miss out.</p>
<p>VVTV has some off balance sheet obligations so its no good being liquidated but when I think about it&#8217;s worth as a business, I still think its cheap. I&#8217;ve mentioned before that a price below 50c was pricing in bankruptcy which I never believed after looking at the numbers from operations.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s struggling to break 70c but it&#8217;s become a long term hold for me. I don&#8217;t like the home shopping business at all but if they improve margins to where their competitors are, they surely can&#8217;t stay where they are.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Apr 2009 21:16:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>on the off balance sheet. oh, ok thanks. Another reason not to invest in VVTV. I remember when Jae mentioned it months back in that article on Div-net. It&#039;s been a perennial for awhile.

&lt;abbr&gt;&lt;em&gt;Mark’s last blog post..&lt;a href=&quot;http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/stockpursuit/VhAe/~3/evTH1mWaYUk/net-nets-sector-rotation-net-net-pier_02.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Net-Nets Sector Rotation, Pier One ImportsPIR , PXG, &amp; Technical Analysis&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/abbr&gt;&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>on the off balance sheet. oh, ok thanks. Another reason not to invest in VVTV. I remember when Jae mentioned it months back in that article on Div-net. It&#8217;s been a perennial for awhile.</p>
<p><abbr><em>Mark’s last blog post..<a href="http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/stockpursuit/VhAe/~3/evTH1mWaYUk/net-nets-sector-rotation-net-net-pier_02.html" rel="nofollow" onclick="pageTracker._trackPageview('/outgoing/feedproxy.google.com/_r/stockpursuit/VhAe/_3/evTH1mWaYUk/net-nets-sector-rotation-net-net-pier_02.html?referer=');">Net-Nets Sector Rotation, Pier One ImportsPIR , PXG, &amp; Technical Analysis</a></em></abbr></p>
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		<title>By: Mark</title>
		<link>http://www.oldschoolvalue.com/blog/featured/cheap-graham-stocks/comment-page-1/#comment-1929</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Apr 2009 21:09:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>at $.10 a share it was at 22% of NCAV . I thought Graham would take NCAV and give himself a margin of safety by buying at less than 2/3rds of NCAV to allow for rec and inv like you said. 

Anyway, I&#039;m not going to actually take over any of these companies, rather, I&#039;m just looking for what the market has given up on and try and play contrarian. I wouldn&#039;t let prepaid expenses be the dealbreaker when other things tell me go. SPAR Spartan Motors was around approx NCAV and was a good buy at those times over the past year.  You can analyze margins, return on investment, cash flows, insider buying, the moon...

&quot;You don&#039;t need a scale to tell if someone is overweight&quot;

-Ben Graham

&lt;abbr&gt;&lt;em&gt;Mark’s last blog post..&lt;a href=&quot;http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/stockpursuit/VhAe/~3/evTH1mWaYUk/net-nets-sector-rotation-net-net-pier_02.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Net-Nets Sector Rotation, Pier One ImportsPIR , PXG, &amp; Technical Analysis&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/abbr&gt;&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>at $.10 a share it was at 22% of NCAV . I thought Graham would take NCAV and give himself a margin of safety by buying at less than 2/3rds of NCAV to allow for rec and inv like you said. </p>
<p>Anyway, I&#8217;m not going to actually take over any of these companies, rather, I&#8217;m just looking for what the market has given up on and try and play contrarian. I wouldn&#8217;t let prepaid expenses be the dealbreaker when other things tell me go. SPAR Spartan Motors was around approx NCAV and was a good buy at those times over the past year.  You can analyze margins, return on investment, cash flows, insider buying, the moon&#8230;</p>
<p>&#8220;You don&#8217;t need a scale to tell if someone is overweight&#8221;</p>
<p>-Ben Graham</p>
<p><abbr><em>Mark’s last blog post..<a href="http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/stockpursuit/VhAe/~3/evTH1mWaYUk/net-nets-sector-rotation-net-net-pier_02.html" rel="nofollow" onclick="pageTracker._trackPageview('/outgoing/feedproxy.google.com/_r/stockpursuit/VhAe/_3/evTH1mWaYUk/net-nets-sector-rotation-net-net-pier_02.html?referer=');">Net-Nets Sector Rotation, Pier One ImportsPIR , PXG, &amp; Technical Analysis</a></em></abbr></p>
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		<title>By: Jim</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Apr 2009 20:43:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mark, concerning VVTV. They are not a net-net either. They have off balance sheet obligations which you won&#039;t find on the balance sheet hence they call them &quot;off-balance sheet&quot; liabilities. Regardless if they are off balance or on balance, they have to be paid and the company owes that money. To the tune of $180 Million.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mark, concerning VVTV. They are not a net-net either. They have off balance sheet obligations which you won&#8217;t find on the balance sheet hence they call them &#8220;off-balance sheet&#8221; liabilities. Regardless if they are off balance or on balance, they have to be paid and the company owes that money. To the tune of $180 Million.</p>
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		<title>By: Jim</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Apr 2009 20:41:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>MARK Wrote:

&quot;PIR last 10Q

$36.9 mil net current assets take net current assets and net tot liabilities

according to their last filing they had 89,265,194 shares outstanding

at .64 it is valued at $56 mil but this stock was as low as $.10 so there was an $8 million market cap priced for bankruptcy

yes this stock was at a HUGE discount to ncav and is cheap if you figure future cash generated by the business is worth more than around its hard assets

classic deep value&quot;

And that&#039;s where I and you apparently differ. According to my calculations, they didn&#039;t have $36.9 Million in net asset value after discounting total liabilities. That number would be their book value. When determining net asset value you don&#039;t include receivables and inventory at full value. You also don&#039;t include prepaid expenses or other current assets at all. So, as I said earlier. PIR has never been a Net-Net stock.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>MARK Wrote:</p>
<p>&#8220;PIR last 10Q</p>
<p>$36.9 mil net current assets take net current assets and net tot liabilities</p>
<p>according to their last filing they had 89,265,194 shares outstanding</p>
<p>at .64 it is valued at $56 mil but this stock was as low as $.10 so there was an $8 million market cap priced for bankruptcy</p>
<p>yes this stock was at a HUGE discount to ncav and is cheap if you figure future cash generated by the business is worth more than around its hard assets</p>
<p>classic deep value&#8221;</p>
<p>And that&#8217;s where I and you apparently differ. According to my calculations, they didn&#8217;t have $36.9 Million in net asset value after discounting total liabilities. That number would be their book value. When determining net asset value you don&#8217;t include receivables and inventory at full value. You also don&#8217;t include prepaid expenses or other current assets at all. So, as I said earlier. PIR has never been a Net-Net stock.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Apr 2009 20:32:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I actually called that PIR was bottoming when it was at NCAV

&quot;Pier One PIR is desperately trying to bottom. Lot of buyers at $.12. Stock is about 30% of NCAV mostly inventory. Long-term debt is stable but it&#039;s a crap shot. I say if it gets delisted it could be a good pickup on the post delisted bounce like ARTC&quot;

http://www.stockpursuit.com/2009/03/stock-analysis-cbou-penny-stocks_16.html

That lower indicator on that chart ROC was telling me it was bottoming and the volume but I wasnt thinking like  a contrarian or i could have been up over 1,000%

&lt;abbr&gt;&lt;em&gt;Mark’s last blog post..&lt;a href=&quot;http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/stockpursuit/VhAe/~3/evTH1mWaYUk/net-nets-sector-rotation-net-net-pier_02.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Net-Nets Sector Rotation, Pier One ImportsPIR , PXG, &amp; Technical Analysis&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/abbr&gt;&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I actually called that PIR was bottoming when it was at NCAV</p>
<p>&#8220;Pier One PIR is desperately trying to bottom. Lot of buyers at $.12. Stock is about 30% of NCAV mostly inventory. Long-term debt is stable but it&#8217;s a crap shot. I say if it gets delisted it could be a good pickup on the post delisted bounce like ARTC&#8221;</p>
<p><a href="http://www.stockpursuit.com/2009/03/stock-analysis-cbou-penny-stocks_16.html" rel="nofollow" onclick="pageTracker._trackPageview('/outgoing/www.stockpursuit.com/2009/03/stock-analysis-cbou-penny-stocks_16.html?referer=');">http://www.stockpursuit.com/2009/03/stock-analysis-cbou-penny-stocks_16.html</a></p>
<p>That lower indicator on that chart ROC was telling me it was bottoming and the volume but I wasnt thinking like  a contrarian or i could have been up over 1,000%</p>
<p><abbr><em>Mark’s last blog post..<a href="http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/stockpursuit/VhAe/~3/evTH1mWaYUk/net-nets-sector-rotation-net-net-pier_02.html" rel="nofollow" onclick="pageTracker._trackPageview('/outgoing/feedproxy.google.com/_r/stockpursuit/VhAe/_3/evTH1mWaYUk/net-nets-sector-rotation-net-net-pier_02.html?referer=');">Net-Nets Sector Rotation, Pier One ImportsPIR , PXG, &amp; Technical Analysis</a></em></abbr></p>
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