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Prepaid Legal Services PPD – Opinions needed

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8:54 pm
December 14, 2009


moneymaker

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Hey just following up on this one, this one looks like a pretty good company with management being able to produce high CROIC.  Here are my numbers:


EPV = $55 based on 9%, $60.24 normalized income ~ 27% MOS

DCF = $67, based on 11% growth, 15% discount rate ~ 41% MOS

GRV = $38, based on 11% growth, $2.24 normalized EPS ~ N/A

4:03 am
November 25, 2009


Jae Jun

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You were right that the 20% drop on the day of the news was an overreaction. It was a huge one.


Missed out on a great entry point. At $30, it would have protected a lot of the downside unless the company is operating under fraud.

10:41 pm
November 19, 2009


Jae Jun

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Post edited 3:45 am – November 20, 2009 by Jae Jun


Remember to consider whether the financial numbers are legit though. At this point in time, there is no way to be sure. The CEO and CMO are involved directly.


The value of the company is based on the latest numbers but what about the scenario where the number is incorrect by 50%? or even more? What is your worst case scenario?


It is a potentiall rewarding speculative investment if you do purchase and the results show nothing and the price could go back up to where it was, but in my opinion, that is a big gamble to take.


No point in going for something like that when there are still other stuff you can look into. Remember there is nothing wrong with cash.

4:08 pm
November 19, 2009


Zefiro50

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Recent Update – 11/19/2009


As of now, PPD's price has dropped significantly due to an ongoing complaint suit ordered by the FTC regarding their Identity Theft Shield and Affirmative Defense Response System ("ADRS") Program. As stated in their recent report:


"Pre-Paid Legal Services, Inc. (PPD) received a proposed draft complaint from the Federal Trade Commission (FTC) seeking permanent injunctive relief, disgorgement of proceeds and other relief, including costs, relating to the Company's Identity Theft Shield and Affirmative Defense Response System ("ADRS") Program. The proposed draft complaint alleges that the ADRS program and related materials violate Section 5(a) of the FTC Act regarding asserted misleading representations, express or implied. The proposed draft complaint also names Harland Stonecipher, the Company's CEO, and Mark Brown, the Company's Chief Marketing Officer, as defendants."


This is one of the mistakes I have made by not addressing this in the Cons side of my current analysis and considering it in my analysis.


Although, usually lawsuits are bad, I am also thinking this might be an opportunity since the market sometimes over react to bad news. It did drop the share price down to a pretty good discount value.

What do yo all say?


Thanks


No holdings in PPD.

3:15 am
November 19, 2009


Zefiro50

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Post edited 8:34 am – November 19, 2009 by Zefiro50


Hello All,

Here is a company I did a review on. PPD, a company that is currently number 1 in ROE in the Top 200 growth stock of 2009. I am also a member of their services. I think it might a great growth investment however I would like some opinions from you all before I decide to buy it.

Current Price: $41.13

DCF: Growth rate of 0% the DCF is 50.13

         Growth rate of 7.88% which is P/E is 76.09

         Grahams: 106.89


The DCF and Graham value above I would say are rather optimistic so I would be conservative and stick with a growth rate of 0% for now.


So far this is what I know about the company and the Pros and Cons in my opinion.


This company started back in 1972 as a Automobile accident legal service company that offset the cost of legal fees by having pool of members paying monthly fee for service per month. Since then, they now do business in canada and have identity theft protection as well in their portfolio of services for members as well as provide members access with attorneys of different specialization. They are the middle men when it comes down to matching people with attorneys.


Pros:

  • Positive increase in Revenue and Operating income since 1999
  • Positive increase in Free Cash Flow since 1999
  • Treasury Repurchase of over 162 million dollars since 1999 and another 1 million shares buyback authorized in Febuary 2009.
  • Been in business for over 37 years and the CEO has been with the company for 33 years.
  • Return of Equity: 93% – Service company does not require much inventory, land, or other assets for business.
  • They recognize only Metlife and GE Money company as their major competitors in their market.

Cons:

  • Economic Moat? – Since this company only provides services, it does not require much to start in business. I am concern how well this company can stave off competitors who can enter in this field rather easily.
  • Criteria for selecting their "Provider Law Firm" is atleast 2 years or other demonstration of being a lawyer. The quality of their lawyers are of entry level in my opinion.
  • CEO compensation: The CEO gets paid an annual salary of about 400K a year. On top of that, he gets .25% of the membership revenue if it's 85% or more than last years same month. Also .25% of the membership revenue quarterly if that quarter is better than last years quarter. Overall made over 2.1 million dollars per year for the past 3 years as a CEO.
  • He used about 11 hours of the corporate jet for personal use which he reimbursed.
  • Reading the proxy statement, CEO only has about 8.2% stake in shares with the company

With a 50% margin of safety and a Growth rate of 7.8%, the discount buy price comes up to about 38 dollars for me.That is to say if this company continues to sign up new members every year which retaining current members and expanding into different geographic locations. This is rather optimistic and speculative but I think that really comes with a growth company.


I would like to hear your feedbacks for the follwoing.

  • Economic Moat: This company has done very well for the past 10 years and has been in business for over 37 years. But is this enough to make the company continue to grow in the long term? It's a service company and the cost of start up in my opinion is not that much. It could be very easy for competitors to start up shop and eat away PPD's margins. Then again, PPD has 37 years of business and may have good ties with it's clients and "Provider Law Firms"
  • CEO: I think the CEO gets paid way too much, unnecessarily uses the jet for personal purposes and has a very low stake in the company but he is doing a good of making the company profitable and bringing in free cashflow. Does this justify his large salary and behavior?

This is my first analysis so I could have made some mistakes. Please feel free to correct me on some of the information I have noted. It will be great to hear what you all think about this company.


Thanks.


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