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		<title>By: Jae Jun</title>
		<link>http://www.oldschoolvalue.com/blog/investing-perspective/value-stock-investing-criteria/comment-page-1/#comment-3519</link>
		<dc:creator>Jae Jun</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Oct 2009 06:58:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tyler,

check out this link. It&#039;s an aussie based value investing asset management company. They have lots of good stuff and analysis.

http://www.intelligentinvestor.com.au/articles/Telstra-TLS/Telstra-structural-separation-coverage.cfm?articleID=1020426</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tyler,</p>
<p>check out this link. It&#8217;s an aussie based value investing asset management company. They have lots of good stuff and analysis.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.intelligentinvestor.com.au/articles/Telstra-TLS/Telstra-structural-separation-coverage.cfm?articleID=1020426" rel="nofollow" onclick="pageTracker._trackPageview('/outgoing/www.intelligentinvestor.com.au/articles/Telstra-TLS/Telstra-structural-separation-coverage.cfm?articleID=1020426&amp;referer=');">http://www.intelligentinvestor.com.au/articles/Telstra-TLS/Telstra-structural-separation-coverage.cfm?articleID=1020426</a></p>
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		<title>By: Tylergold</title>
		<link>http://www.oldschoolvalue.com/blog/investing-perspective/value-stock-investing-criteria/comment-page-1/#comment-3470</link>
		<dc:creator>Tylergold</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Oct 2009 15:34:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i was look today at the Historical P/e of indexes. The Results: Disturbing

Average P/e ratio for SP500 At March Low = 15
Major Bear Market Lows For SP500 = 7-9
Average P/e ration for SP500 Now = 20


P/e ratio of ASX All Ords At March Low = 8</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i was look today at the Historical P/e of indexes. The Results: Disturbing</p>
<p>Average P/e ratio for SP500 At March Low = 15<br />
Major Bear Market Lows For SP500 = 7-9<br />
Average P/e ration for SP500 Now = 20</p>
<p>P/e ratio of ASX All Ords At March Low = 8</p>
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		<title>By: Tylergold</title>
		<link>http://www.oldschoolvalue.com/blog/investing-perspective/value-stock-investing-criteria/comment-page-1/#comment-3469</link>
		<dc:creator>Tylergold</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Oct 2009 09:11:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why are larger Companies not near their nnwc</description>
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		<title>By: Jae Jun</title>
		<link>http://www.oldschoolvalue.com/blog/investing-perspective/value-stock-investing-criteria/comment-page-1/#comment-3462</link>
		<dc:creator>Jae Jun</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Oct 2009 16:11:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Telstra is a large company so you&#039;ll never see it at NNWC or anywhere close. Also if an investment requires you to look at so many things in order to decide whether it is a good opportunity or not, it usually isn&#039;t.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Telstra is a large company so you&#8217;ll never see it at NNWC or anywhere close. Also if an investment requires you to look at so many things in order to decide whether it is a good opportunity or not, it usually isn&#8217;t.</p>
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		<title>By: Tyler</title>
		<link>http://www.oldschoolvalue.com/blog/investing-perspective/value-stock-investing-criteria/comment-page-1/#comment-3457</link>
		<dc:creator>Tyler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Oct 2009 08:41:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Page 8,11,17,18,22,23
Have A Look Please Jae
http://www.asx.com.au/asxpdf/20090813/pdf/31k250lz9d30z5.pdf
And The NNWC is not $1.05</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Page 8,11,17,18,22,23<br />
Have A Look Please Jae<br />
<a href="http://www.asx.com.au/asxpdf/20090813/pdf/31k250lz9d30z5.pdf" rel="nofollow" onclick="pageTracker._trackPageview('/outgoing/www.asx.com.au/asxpdf/20090813/pdf/31k250lz9d30z5.pdf?referer=');">http://www.asx.com.au/asxpdf/20090813/pdf/31k250lz9d30z5.pdf</a><br />
And The NNWC is not $1.05</p>
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		<title>By: Tyler</title>
		<link>http://www.oldschoolvalue.com/blog/investing-perspective/value-stock-investing-criteria/comment-page-1/#comment-3456</link>
		<dc:creator>Tyler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Oct 2009 08:22:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>however the NNWC is about $1.05 per share</description>
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		<title>By: Tyler</title>
		<link>http://www.oldschoolvalue.com/blog/investing-perspective/value-stock-investing-criteria/comment-page-1/#comment-3452</link>
		<dc:creator>Tyler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Oct 2009 05:26:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The DCF of TLS.AX is $4.90 at growth of 4% and discount at 11%</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The DCF of TLS.AX is $4.90 at growth of 4% and discount at 11%</p>
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		<title>By: Tyler</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tyler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Oct 2009 05:23:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Graham Formula At 5% Growth 
= $6.66  

DCF = $5.33 At 4% forever growth. And a DR of 11%


Telstra looks cheap, not ridiculously cheap.

And The CEO that was horrible is gone

Profit this year was up 9% and revenue up 3%</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Graham Formula At 5% Growth<br />
= $6.66  </p>
<p>DCF = $5.33 At 4% forever growth. And a DR of 11%</p>
<p>Telstra looks cheap, not ridiculously cheap.</p>
<p>And The CEO that was horrible is gone</p>
<p>Profit this year was up 9% and revenue up 3%</p>
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		<title>By: Jae Jun</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jae Jun</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Oct 2009 02:00:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s hard to say that Telstra is undervalued just by using Graham&#039;s method.

What you could try is to normalize the past 5 years of Telstra earnings and then using that number in the calculation.

I don&#039;t think Telstra could be that undervalued considering how many people follow it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s hard to say that Telstra is undervalued just by using Graham&#8217;s method.</p>
<p>What you could try is to normalize the past 5 years of Telstra earnings and then using that number in the calculation.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t think Telstra could be that undervalued considering how many people follow it.</p>
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		<title>By: Tyler</title>
		<link>http://www.oldschoolvalue.com/blog/investing-perspective/value-stock-investing-criteria/comment-page-1/#comment-3440</link>
		<dc:creator>Tyler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Oct 2009 01:46:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Another one i was loooking at was Telstra.

Telstra:
Assumptions Annual Profit Growth Rate of 8%   (Last Year it increased 10% so its realistic)

Intrinsic Value =( .33 * (8.5+16) * 4.4 ) divided by 5.2  (5.5 being current AAA 10 yr corporate bonds) (4.4 yield of average AAA  bonds – Im not sure on the exact yield but id guess it would be higher then 5.2 but ill leave it at 4.4)
Intrinsic Value = 6.84 Per Share

Risks : The Company might be split Refer to http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/business/story/0,28124,26189909-36418,00.html

Under Valued = &gt;1 
Over Valued = &lt;1

6.84 / 3.16 (last traded price)
= 2.16

Therefore Telstra Is Undervalued enormously, however The Debt TO Equity Ratio is 139% which is ridiculous and I don’t understand that situation. Where 30% is usually acceptable.

Telstra has been battered and bruised by the media, and the government and with a solid yield of 9.5% and its profit growth last year was 10% looks like a steal

-	Tyler</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Another one i was loooking at was Telstra.</p>
<p>Telstra:<br />
Assumptions Annual Profit Growth Rate of 8%   (Last Year it increased 10% so its realistic)</p>
<p>Intrinsic Value =( .33 * (8.5+16) * 4.4 ) divided by 5.2  (5.5 being current AAA 10 yr corporate bonds) (4.4 yield of average AAA  bonds – Im not sure on the exact yield but id guess it would be higher then 5.2 but ill leave it at 4.4)<br />
Intrinsic Value = 6.84 Per Share</p>
<p>Risks : The Company might be split Refer to <a href="http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/business/story/0,28124,26189909-36418,00.html" rel="nofollow" onclick="pageTracker._trackPageview('/outgoing/www.theaustralian.news.com.au/business/story/0_28124_26189909-36418_00.html?referer=');">http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/business/story/0,28124,26189909-36418,00.html</a></p>
<p>Under Valued = &gt;1<br />
Over Valued = &lt;1</p>
<p>6.84 / 3.16 (last traded price)<br />
= 2.16</p>
<p>Therefore Telstra Is Undervalued enormously, however The Debt TO Equity Ratio is 139% which is ridiculous and I don’t understand that situation. Where 30% is usually acceptable.</p>
<p>Telstra has been battered and bruised by the media, and the government and with a solid yield of 9.5% and its profit growth last year was 10% looks like a steal</p>
<p>-	Tyler</p>
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		<title>By: Jae Jun</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jae Jun</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Oct 2009 00:56:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tyler,

WDC is too complicated for me to quickly view and offer my opinion. You&#039;ll have to go through the report, analyse the assets, look at cash flow, look at occupancy % and other metrics important to real estate and figure out whether the market cap is above or below your calculation.

Also try and get historical real estate prices. How does the current cost per sqm compare with a more normal scenario.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tyler,</p>
<p>WDC is too complicated for me to quickly view and offer my opinion. You&#8217;ll have to go through the report, analyse the assets, look at cash flow, look at occupancy % and other metrics important to real estate and figure out whether the market cap is above or below your calculation.</p>
<p>Also try and get historical real estate prices. How does the current cost per sqm compare with a more normal scenario.</p>
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		<title>By: Tyler</title>
		<link>http://www.oldschoolvalue.com/blog/investing-perspective/value-stock-investing-criteria/comment-page-1/#comment-3422</link>
		<dc:creator>Tyler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Oct 2009 00:15:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Theyve got like 17 bil of assets in america and 21 here about 10 in uk and 4 in nz</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Theyve got like 17 bil of assets in america and 21 here about 10 in uk and 4 in nz</p>
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		<title>By: Jae Jun</title>
		<link>http://www.oldschoolvalue.com/blog/investing-perspective/value-stock-investing-criteria/comment-page-1/#comment-3411</link>
		<dc:creator>Jae Jun</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Oct 2009 17:21:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;@ Tyler&lt;/strong&gt;
I&#039;ll see. I&#039;m not familiar with how shopping centre real estate prices are in Australia at the moment. You&#039;ll have to consider that with Westfield and look at whether the current valuation is underpricing the value of the properties if the market stabilizes.

Australia was the first to raise interest rates so maybe things are looking good back there.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>@ Tyler</strong><br />
I&#8217;ll see. I&#8217;m not familiar with how shopping centre real estate prices are in Australia at the moment. You&#8217;ll have to consider that with Westfield and look at whether the current valuation is underpricing the value of the properties if the market stabilizes.</p>
<p>Australia was the first to raise interest rates so maybe things are looking good back there.</p>
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		<title>By: Tylergold</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tylergold</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Oct 2009 11:04:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>http://www.asx.com.au/asxpdf/20090826/pdf/31k9nhz05cpjpg.pdf</description>
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		<title>By: Tylergold</title>
		<link>http://www.oldschoolvalue.com/blog/investing-perspective/value-stock-investing-criteria/comment-page-1/#comment-3405</link>
		<dc:creator>Tylergold</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Oct 2009 05:36:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>thanks.

if possible can you work out one company for me, its intrinsic value.
Name: Westfield
Ticker: WDC

Im thinking of selling my bank shares (CBA,WBC),

For CBA the yield has gone from 12% at the last bottom (march) to 6%. and the P/E has gone from sommething like 9 to 16.

For WBC yield has gone from 9% for 4.5% and P/E  has gone from 8 to 12

Before the Crash yields were 4-6% and P/E was 30

im not sure which bank is more valuable as wbc has a low p/e but a low yield aswell compared to CBA.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>thanks.</p>
<p>if possible can you work out one company for me, its intrinsic value.<br />
Name: Westfield<br />
Ticker: WDC</p>
<p>Im thinking of selling my bank shares (CBA,WBC),</p>
<p>For CBA the yield has gone from 12% at the last bottom (march) to 6%. and the P/E has gone from sommething like 9 to 16.</p>
<p>For WBC yield has gone from 9% for 4.5% and P/E  has gone from 8 to 12</p>
<p>Before the Crash yields were 4-6% and P/E was 30</p>
<p>im not sure which bank is more valuable as wbc has a low p/e but a low yield aswell compared to CBA.</p>
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		<title>By: Jae Jun</title>
		<link>http://www.oldschoolvalue.com/blog/investing-perspective/value-stock-investing-criteria/comment-page-1/#comment-3403</link>
		<dc:creator>Jae Jun</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Oct 2009 16:44:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Tyler,

Only 15? woah keep up the questions and thirst for knowledge and by the time you reach 18, you&#039;ll probably be a genius in the stock market.

NNWC is a very simply calculation and concept. It&#039;s just simple addition and subtraction.
Follow the instructions in the following link to know how.
http://www.oldschoolvalue.com/valuation-methods/ben-graham-net-net-deep-value-stocks/

The only piece of information you will need are the annual or quarterly reports for the companies you are interested in.
With the ASX, companies don&#039;t publicly file every single report so you may have to ring the company directly and ask them to send it to you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Tyler,</p>
<p>Only 15? woah keep up the questions and thirst for knowledge and by the time you reach 18, you&#8217;ll probably be a genius in the stock market.</p>
<p>NNWC is a very simply calculation and concept. It&#8217;s just simple addition and subtraction.<br />
Follow the instructions in the following link to know how.<br />
<a href="http://www.oldschoolvalue.com/valuation-methods/ben-graham-net-net-deep-value-stocks/" rel="nofollow">http://www.oldschoolvalue.com/valuation-methods/ben-graham-net-net-deep-value-stocks/</a></p>
<p>The only piece of information you will need are the annual or quarterly reports for the companies you are interested in.<br />
With the ASX, companies don&#8217;t publicly file every single report so you may have to ring the company directly and ask them to send it to you.</p>
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		<title>By: Tylergold</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tylergold</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Oct 2009 11:57:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Jae

Im relatively new to investing. im 15 years of age. i have an account on etrade.com.au but i dont think i can trade on the us exchanges. i am absolutely enthrawled in the biography &quot; The making of an american capitalist&quot; and in buffet. Is there anyway i can learn how to implement the NNWC formula if i dont know how to do it, is there a way i can     learn.

I have shares on the ASX currently and gold shares</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Jae</p>
<p>Im relatively new to investing. im 15 years of age. i have an account on etrade.com.au but i dont think i can trade on the us exchanges. i am absolutely enthrawled in the biography &#8221; The making of an american capitalist&#8221; and in buffet. Is there anyway i can learn how to implement the NNWC formula if i dont know how to do it, is there a way i can     learn.</p>
<p>I have shares on the ASX currently and gold shares</p>
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