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		<title>By: Jae Jun</title>
		<link>http://www.oldschoolvalue.com/blog/portfolio/portfolio-update-december-2009/comment-page-1/#comment-4165</link>
		<dc:creator>Jae Jun</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Jan 2010 04:38:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Susan.

I&#039;m not very familiar with valuing energy trusts but from the looks of things, it looks like an opportunity.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Susan.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not very familiar with valuing energy trusts but from the looks of things, it looks like an opportunity.</p>
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		<title>By: Susan</title>
		<link>http://www.oldschoolvalue.com/blog/portfolio/portfolio-update-december-2009/comment-page-1/#comment-4148</link>
		<dc:creator>Susan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Jan 2010 00:32:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Jae, congratulations! What do you think about ENT?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Jae, congratulations! What do you think about ENT?</p>
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		<title>By: Jae Jun</title>
		<link>http://www.oldschoolvalue.com/blog/portfolio/portfolio-update-december-2009/comment-page-1/#comment-4142</link>
		<dc:creator>Jae Jun</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Jan 2010 05:36:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;stocki711,&lt;/strong&gt;
Hey thanks a lot.
I was just real lucky to find KTII. Awesome management, great boring consistent niche leader. Perfect recipe to be bought out. Sadly I didn&#039;t see it at the finish line as I sold out a little early and couldn&#039;t buy back in. BOLT is pretty rock solid as well so I think I got in at a real good time.

As for financial stocks, it&#039;s not that I hate them, I just don&#039;t know how to value them properly and with so  many stock ideas I have already, just could never find the time to learn. 
If you could write something up, that would be bloody fantastic!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>stocki711,</strong><br />
Hey thanks a lot.<br />
I was just real lucky to find KTII. Awesome management, great boring consistent niche leader. Perfect recipe to be bought out. Sadly I didn&#8217;t see it at the finish line as I sold out a little early and couldn&#8217;t buy back in. BOLT is pretty rock solid as well so I think I got in at a real good time.</p>
<p>As for financial stocks, it&#8217;s not that I hate them, I just don&#8217;t know how to value them properly and with so  many stock ideas I have already, just could never find the time to learn.<br />
If you could write something up, that would be bloody fantastic!</p>
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		<title>By: stocki711</title>
		<link>http://www.oldschoolvalue.com/blog/portfolio/portfolio-update-december-2009/comment-page-1/#comment-4141</link>
		<dc:creator>stocki711</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Jan 2010 05:21:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Congrats on the year. I also wanted to say congrats on KTII great call on the fair value. I am happy I looked into BOLT more, I&#039;ve been happy with DCU/EVI as I&#039;m sure you are and I would only suggest IBCA. I know you mentioned you hate financial stocks but I can try to walk you through what I know to the best of my ability. Your spreadsheets are awesome and I&#039;m going to look into google spreadsheets, seems like a much better option.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Congrats on the year. I also wanted to say congrats on KTII great call on the fair value. I am happy I looked into BOLT more, I&#8217;ve been happy with DCU/EVI as I&#8217;m sure you are and I would only suggest IBCA. I know you mentioned you hate financial stocks but I can try to walk you through what I know to the best of my ability. Your spreadsheets are awesome and I&#8217;m going to look into google spreadsheets, seems like a much better option.</p>
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		<title>By: 4cinvestor</title>
		<link>http://www.oldschoolvalue.com/blog/portfolio/portfolio-update-december-2009/comment-page-1/#comment-4132</link>
		<dc:creator>4cinvestor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Jan 2010 06:41:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Jae,

Thanks for your view. 

Cheers,</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Jae,</p>
<p>Thanks for your view. </p>
<p>Cheers,</p>
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		<title>By: Jae Jun</title>
		<link>http://www.oldschoolvalue.com/blog/portfolio/portfolio-update-december-2009/comment-page-1/#comment-4128</link>
		<dc:creator>Jae Jun</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Jan 2010 08:13:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@4cinvestor,

My DISK position is only $98 at the moment so I haven&#039;t bothered following it at all. But if I think about the economics of the company, it&#039;s going to be real tough. After all, the assets dont&#039; cost anything to maintain but most of it is still intangible.

DISK will probably stay in my portfolio until it either recovers or goes bankrupt.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@4cinvestor,</p>
<p>My DISK position is only $98 at the moment so I haven&#8217;t bothered following it at all. But if I think about the economics of the company, it&#8217;s going to be real tough. After all, the assets dont&#8217; cost anything to maintain but most of it is still intangible.</p>
<p>DISK will probably stay in my portfolio until it either recovers or goes bankrupt.</p>
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		<title>By: 4cinvestor</title>
		<link>http://www.oldschoolvalue.com/blog/portfolio/portfolio-update-december-2009/comment-page-1/#comment-4127</link>
		<dc:creator>4cinvestor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Jan 2010 20:50:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Jae,

Thank you for sharing with your results. Have you given up DISK yet? What is your thoughts on JH Partner&#039;s 90% possible dilution if it goes through? Can JH partner turn around DISK? What would be the attractive price for the cigarette butt situation? 

Thanks,

Josh</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Jae,</p>
<p>Thank you for sharing with your results. Have you given up DISK yet? What is your thoughts on JH Partner&#8217;s 90% possible dilution if it goes through? Can JH partner turn around DISK? What would be the attractive price for the cigarette butt situation? </p>
<p>Thanks,</p>
<p>Josh</p>
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		<title>By: Jae Jun</title>
		<link>http://www.oldschoolvalue.com/blog/portfolio/portfolio-update-december-2009/comment-page-1/#comment-4125</link>
		<dc:creator>Jae Jun</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Jan 2010 18:52:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Ken,

Im real glad that you took advantage of the good stuff.
I think I&#039;m in some sort of a rut the past few weeks when it comes to finding ideas. I just don&#039;t seem to be able to see something I like.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Ken,</p>
<p>Im real glad that you took advantage of the good stuff.<br />
I think I&#8217;m in some sort of a rut the past few weeks when it comes to finding ideas. I just don&#8217;t seem to be able to see something I like.</p>
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		<title>By: Ken</title>
		<link>http://www.oldschoolvalue.com/blog/portfolio/portfolio-update-december-2009/comment-page-1/#comment-4124</link>
		<dc:creator>Ken</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Jan 2010 18:14:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Congrats! Great performance. Thanks for the information on the site. I have done really well with VVTV and ROIAK, thanks for pointing them out. I never had faith in the the GGP idea, but obviously missed out, oh well :). Hard to complain about missing opportunities with the all the good ones I have been able to take advantage off.
.-= Ken&#180;s last blog ..&lt;a href=&quot;http://compoundinglife.com/itex-2009-annual-shareholder-meeting-notes/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;ITEX 2009 Annual Shareholder Meeting Notes&lt;/a&gt; =-.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Congrats! Great performance. Thanks for the information on the site. I have done really well with VVTV and ROIAK, thanks for pointing them out. I never had faith in the the GGP idea, but obviously missed out, oh well <img src='http://Cdn.oldschoolvalue.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> . Hard to complain about missing opportunities with the all the good ones I have been able to take advantage off.<br />
.-= Ken&#180;s last blog ..<a href="http://compoundinglife.com/itex-2009-annual-shareholder-meeting-notes/" rel="nofollow" onclick="pageTracker._trackPageview('/outgoing/compoundinglife.com/itex-2009-annual-shareholder-meeting-notes/?referer=');">ITEX 2009 Annual Shareholder Meeting Notes</a> =-.</p>
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		<title>By: Jae Jun</title>
		<link>http://www.oldschoolvalue.com/blog/portfolio/portfolio-update-december-2009/comment-page-1/#comment-4114</link>
		<dc:creator>Jae Jun</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Jan 2010 18:13:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Sivaram

@ Tyler,
Check out the post I wrote for the investment tracking spreadsheet.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Sivaram</p>
<p>@ Tyler,<br />
Check out the post I wrote for the investment tracking spreadsheet.</p>
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		<title>By: Tyler</title>
		<link>http://www.oldschoolvalue.com/blog/portfolio/portfolio-update-december-2009/comment-page-1/#comment-4112</link>
		<dc:creator>Tyler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Jan 2010 13:19:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi jae how can I set out how I performed against the market on excel cuz I&#039;ve bought and sold aswell. Thx Tyler</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi jae how can I set out how I performed against the market on excel cuz I&#8217;ve bought and sold aswell. Thx Tyler</p>
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		<title>By: Sivaram Velauthapillai</title>
		<link>http://www.oldschoolvalue.com/blog/portfolio/portfolio-update-december-2009/comment-page-1/#comment-4105</link>
		<dc:creator>Sivaram Velauthapillai</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Jan 2010 23:46:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Jae,

Happy New Year and all the best to you and your family... yes, I realize it&#039;s a bit late :)

Anyway, great job with your portfolio. That&#039;s an amazing return. Congratulations.
.-= Sivaram Velauthapillai&#180;s last blog ..&lt;a href=&quot;http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/CanTurtlesFly/~3/kxk6ZYLKXZk/2009-asset-performance.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;2009 Asset Performance&lt;/a&gt; =-.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Jae,</p>
<p>Happy New Year and all the best to you and your family&#8230; yes, I realize it&#8217;s a bit late <img src='http://Cdn.oldschoolvalue.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Anyway, great job with your portfolio. That&#8217;s an amazing return. Congratulations.<br />
.-= Sivaram Velauthapillai&#180;s last blog ..<a href="http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/CanTurtlesFly/~3/kxk6ZYLKXZk/2009-asset-performance.html" rel="nofollow" onclick="pageTracker._trackPageview('/outgoing/feedproxy.google.com/_r/CanTurtlesFly/_3/kxk6ZYLKXZk/2009-asset-performance.html?referer=');">2009 Asset Performance</a> =-.</p>
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		<title>By: Jae Jun</title>
		<link>http://www.oldschoolvalue.com/blog/portfolio/portfolio-update-december-2009/comment-page-1/#comment-4097</link>
		<dc:creator>Jae Jun</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Jan 2010 07:54:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes I do still own those. I just didn&#039;t include everything in my portfolio.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes I do still own those. I just didn&#8217;t include everything in my portfolio.</p>
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		<title>By: conan21</title>
		<link>http://www.oldschoolvalue.com/blog/portfolio/portfolio-update-december-2009/comment-page-1/#comment-4094</link>
		<dc:creator>conan21</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Jan 2010 06:38:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What about PDII, MHH and INSM? are you still long these stocks?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What about PDII, MHH and INSM? are you still long these stocks?</p>
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		<title>By: Jae Jun</title>
		<link>http://www.oldschoolvalue.com/blog/portfolio/portfolio-update-december-2009/comment-page-1/#comment-4087</link>
		<dc:creator>Jae Jun</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Jan 2010 01:27:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;@ tuoki,&lt;/strong&gt;
I haven&#039;t read much about it so I don&#039;t have much of an opinion, but my bias is to usually side with Buffett when it comes to these things.

&lt;strong&gt;@ Mechanonuke,&lt;/strong&gt;
I usually keep it set to 50% but you are right. In a fire sale, assets could go for 25% but in the likelihood that the company isn&#039;t liquidating but just in a difficult period, 50% is more than fine with me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>@ tuoki,</strong><br />
I haven&#8217;t read much about it so I don&#8217;t have much of an opinion, but my bias is to usually side with Buffett when it comes to these things.</p>
<p><strong>@ Mechanonuke,</strong><br />
I usually keep it set to 50% but you are right. In a fire sale, assets could go for 25% but in the likelihood that the company isn&#8217;t liquidating but just in a difficult period, 50% is more than fine with me.</p>
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		<title>By: Mechanonuke</title>
		<link>http://www.oldschoolvalue.com/blog/portfolio/portfolio-update-december-2009/comment-page-1/#comment-4082</link>
		<dc:creator>Mechanonuke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Jan 2010 03:24:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Jae

In the NNWC spreadsheet the Inventory BV multiplier is set at 50%.  Do you ever use less?  Reason I ask is because I tend to use a lower multiplier based on the type of business, dependent on if I guesstimate that the inventories are illiquid or only sellable at firesale prices.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Jae</p>
<p>In the NNWC spreadsheet the Inventory BV multiplier is set at 50%.  Do you ever use less?  Reason I ask is because I tend to use a lower multiplier based on the type of business, dependent on if I guesstimate that the inventories are illiquid or only sellable at firesale prices.</p>
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		<title>By: Mechanonuke</title>
		<link>http://www.oldschoolvalue.com/blog/portfolio/portfolio-update-december-2009/comment-page-1/#comment-4081</link>
		<dc:creator>Mechanonuke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Jan 2010 03:19:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Edward

PRCP seems interesting.  Shr price is made up of ~78% cash/equivalents.  Very close to 0 NNWC with very little debt.  And an on going business in an out of favor sector.  Worth a more detailed look.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Edward</p>
<p>PRCP seems interesting.  Shr price is made up of ~78% cash/equivalents.  Very close to 0 NNWC with very little debt.  And an on going business in an out of favor sector.  Worth a more detailed look.</p>
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		<title>By: tuoki</title>
		<link>http://www.oldschoolvalue.com/blog/portfolio/portfolio-update-december-2009/comment-page-1/#comment-4079</link>
		<dc:creator>tuoki</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Jan 2010 22:31:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hello 

I want to know what you think about of potential KFT and Cadbury merger? Do you think that merger with *new* sweedened deal will destroy shareholders value as Buffet thinks?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello </p>
<p>I want to know what you think about of potential KFT and Cadbury merger? Do you think that merger with *new* sweedened deal will destroy shareholders value as Buffet thinks?</p>
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		<title>By: Jae Jun</title>
		<link>http://www.oldschoolvalue.com/blog/portfolio/portfolio-update-december-2009/comment-page-1/#comment-4077</link>
		<dc:creator>Jae Jun</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Jan 2010 21:05:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;b&gt;@ Alex,&lt;/b&gt;
Welcome. We share a common interest of being fwallstreet fans :) I&#039;ve literally read every single post from the beginning when Joe started his site and it&#039;s where I learnt the most.

&lt;b&gt;@ Ankit &amp; Edward&lt;/b&gt;
I actually wrote about SALM here and there in the comments and forums but not a specific post.

To sum it up briefly, if you look at SALM on its own, it is a debt ridden company. But if you look at the economics of the industry and business, it becomes very attractive.

High penetration rates, high ad effectiveness, lots of FCF.

So if you have a proven business that produces much more FCF than the interest payments and the company has been paying off debt and within the debt covenant, what&#039;s there not to like?

The idea and reasoning is really simple actually.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>@ Alex,</b><br />
Welcome. We share a common interest of being fwallstreet fans <img src='http://Cdn.oldschoolvalue.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  I&#8217;ve literally read every single post from the beginning when Joe started his site and it&#8217;s where I learnt the most.</p>
<p><b>@ Ankit &#038; Edward</b><br />
I actually wrote about SALM here and there in the comments and forums but not a specific post.</p>
<p>To sum it up briefly, if you look at SALM on its own, it is a debt ridden company. But if you look at the economics of the industry and business, it becomes very attractive.</p>
<p>High penetration rates, high ad effectiveness, lots of FCF.</p>
<p>So if you have a proven business that produces much more FCF than the interest payments and the company has been paying off debt and within the debt covenant, what&#8217;s there not to like?</p>
<p>The idea and reasoning is really simple actually.</p>
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		<title>By: edward</title>
		<link>http://www.oldschoolvalue.com/blog/portfolio/portfolio-update-december-2009/comment-page-1/#comment-4076</link>
		<dc:creator>edward</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Jan 2010 20:45:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good question Ankit, I would agree SALM has far too much debt. I would also like to know about INSM, granted as it stands with cash and short term investments it is worth a little more than it&#039;s trading for but I just don&#039;t feel there is enough protection as the future is unknown. PRCP might be a more logical choice...your thoughts?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good question Ankit, I would agree SALM has far too much debt. I would also like to know about INSM, granted as it stands with cash and short term investments it is worth a little more than it&#8217;s trading for but I just don&#8217;t feel there is enough protection as the future is unknown. PRCP might be a more logical choice&#8230;your thoughts?</p>
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