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	<title>Comments on: Bruce GreenWald&#8217;s Earnings Power Value EPV Lecture Slides</title>
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		<title>By: Mike</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 May 2010 12:28:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is there a detailed discussion somewhere here on how to search for stocks and what to look for? That is, more on the chapter &quot;how to fish where the fish is&quot;.

Thanks

Mike</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is there a detailed discussion somewhere here on how to search for stocks and what to look for? That is, more on the chapter &#8220;how to fish where the fish is&#8221;.</p>
<p>Thanks</p>
<p>Mike</p>
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		<title>By: Jae Jun</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jae Jun</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Aug 2009 19:19:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yep. I just finished going over the book a second time but there are some substantial differences. Greenwald doesn&#039;t like to use DCF because of the assumptions and projections required.

However, I ultimately see the intrinsic value of the business going up when the company is able to generate FCF. A company could have the highest sustainable earnings but could result in nothing if it never drops to the bottom line.

This is the biggest problem I have with using the EPV. Enron had high sustainable earnings but had people looked to see whether that number turned into FCF, it would have been a completely different story.

I&#039;m still thinking hard about how I will implement this.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yep. I just finished going over the book a second time but there are some substantial differences. Greenwald doesn&#8217;t like to use DCF because of the assumptions and projections required.</p>
<p>However, I ultimately see the intrinsic value of the business going up when the company is able to generate FCF. A company could have the highest sustainable earnings but could result in nothing if it never drops to the bottom line.</p>
<p>This is the biggest problem I have with using the EPV. Enron had high sustainable earnings but had people looked to see whether that number turned into FCF, it would have been a completely different story.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m still thinking hard about how I will implement this.</p>
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		<title>By: The Curious Investor</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Curious Investor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Aug 2009 14:02:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not to split hairs, but I believe that Bruce Greenwald (in his book &lt;a href=&quot;http://thecuriousinvestor.com/2007/05/21/value-investing-from-graham-to-buffett-and-beyond/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Value Investing: From Graham to Buffett and Beyond&lt;/a&gt;) actually describes his analysis as completely discounting any growth. That is, as a value investor, he&#039;s unwilling to pay any premium for growth. EPV valuation simply assumes standardized earnings - &quot;average&quot; margins over &quot;sustainable earnings&quot; - multiplied by 1/WACC determines the Company&#039;s current value. You&#039;ll notice it&#039;s very similar to a standard DCF analysis if you remove the growth rate and assume WACC as the discount rate. Just substitute &quot;sustainable earnings&quot; for &quot;sustainable cash flow.&quot;
.-= The Curious Investor&#180;s last blog ..&lt;a href=&quot;http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/TheCuriousInvestor/~3/S6Io1bCdVuo/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Cash Conversion Cycle Case Studies&lt;/a&gt; =-.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not to split hairs, but I believe that Bruce Greenwald (in his book <a href="http://thecuriousinvestor.com/2007/05/21/value-investing-from-graham-to-buffett-and-beyond/" rel="nofollow" onclick="pageTracker._trackPageview('/outgoing/thecuriousinvestor.com/2007/05/21/value-investing-from-graham-to-buffett-and-beyond/?referer=');">Value Investing: From Graham to Buffett and Beyond</a>) actually describes his analysis as completely discounting any growth. That is, as a value investor, he&#8217;s unwilling to pay any premium for growth. EPV valuation simply assumes standardized earnings &#8211; &#8220;average&#8221; margins over &#8220;sustainable earnings&#8221; &#8211; multiplied by 1/WACC determines the Company&#8217;s current value. You&#8217;ll notice it&#8217;s very similar to a standard DCF analysis if you remove the growth rate and assume WACC as the discount rate. Just substitute &#8220;sustainable earnings&#8221; for &#8220;sustainable cash flow.&#8221;<br />
.-= The Curious Investor&#180;s last blog ..<a href="http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/TheCuriousInvestor/~3/S6Io1bCdVuo/" rel="nofollow" onclick="pageTracker._trackPageview('/outgoing/feedproxy.google.com/_r/TheCuriousInvestor/_3/S6Io1bCdVuo/?referer=');">Cash Conversion Cycle Case Studies</a> =-.</p>
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		<title>By: Jae Jun</title>
		<link>http://www.oldschoolvalue.com/blog/valuation-methods/bruce-greenwalds-earnings-power-value-epv-lecture-slides/comment-page-1/#comment-2543</link>
		<dc:creator>Jae Jun</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Jun 2009 23:20:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for answering Anon.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for answering Anon.</p>
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		<title>By: ANON</title>
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		<dc:creator>ANON</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Jun 2009 21:55:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A = Amortization</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A = Amortization</p>
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		<title>By: Carl</title>
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		<dc:creator>Carl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Jun 2009 19:58:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have a question on one of the equation on slide #7, Maint. Inv = Depr + A, What is A ?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have a question on one of the equation on slide #7, Maint. Inv = Depr + A, What is A ?</p>
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		<title>By: Jae Jun</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jae Jun</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Jun 2009 01:00:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ryan, is the email address you entered correct? ryan2041 (at) mail.com ?? The email is bouncing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ryan, is the email address you entered correct? ryan2041 (at) mail.com ?? The email is bouncing.</p>
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		<title>By: Ryan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ryan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Jun 2009 23:38:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Jae,

I just found your website from other sties. This looks great. Very useful info and resources. 
By the way can you explain in details the difference b/w $15.95 spreadsheets and $21.95 spreadsheets? What financial statements are included? 

Thanks
Ryan</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Jae,</p>
<p>I just found your website from other sties. This looks great. Very useful info and resources.<br />
By the way can you explain in details the difference b/w $15.95 spreadsheets and $21.95 spreadsheets? What financial statements are included? </p>
<p>Thanks<br />
Ryan</p>
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